cmbrose - 5/23/2018 12:14 AM

headfirst - 4/27/2018 11:13 AM Chris, is that you that won it?! Congrats dude!!!

It was me! Super stoked to not have everything in coolers anymore!

 Congrats, that is a great win

Ahhh gotcha.  Well either way, it's crappy and the "winner" shouldn't be the one who ends up losing  

 Seems as though this story isn't finished....a rush to judgement never works out well esp. when ALL of the facts are not accounted for.  Yes....I know George well enough to say that he has character and integrity because he's proven it not only to me but others as well.  It takes a lifetime to build a name or brand and only seconds to tear it down....is that something that you would agree with or would you rather be on the side that just makes a determination without knowing everything and casting stones?  I seriously doubt that you'd want others to attack you personally without benefit of being able to explain in detail as to the matter.  I will continue to back George up until such time that he doesn't do the right thing and for now....it looks like he is doing the right thing.  There comes a time in everybodys life where we should have the opportunity to defend ourselves....and for the 6 plus years I've know George it's not in his personality to defraud anyone....I am a character witness in this regard just as I would be a character witness for anyone who would be accused of something that just didn't fit the mold.  Hopefully this will be resolved quickly and in the meantime maybe people will understand that responding to Twitter/Facebook/Instagram or any other Social Media to attack others before having a real sense of facts is not the answer until ALL of the facts are in. Would anyone here want to deal with a situation where your name or business is on the line and were being vilified without benefit of being able to clear things up?  Once things are burned down and reputations are destroyed....a simple I'm sorry from the attackers.....just doesn't seem adequate. JMHO

Cigary, I don’t think anyone on this forum is doubting your opinions on George and you are right many of us have had good dealings with George. I believe most of the comments are regarding this contest and how it was run. I also don't believe anyone here believes George originally ran this contest with the intent of not fulfilling the commitment.

But lets look at the facts

First the Chris’ name was drawn on May 1st. – 120 days ago there was a series of messages from George that lead Chris to believe things were moving towards him getting this prize, albeit moving slowly, but he lead Chris to believe he was getting it
The first excuses were that he was shopping for shipping quotes. That took 1-2 months. Then when he did get a good quote, the distributor sold the last one. Now we have to wait on another shipment from China that should land middle of July.
July 30th Chris messaged him and his reply was they are clearing customs and he should have it that next week

When Chris was informed he was not going to get this humidor. George basically told Chris he can follow up with his contact, whom he couldn’t get in touch with. Instead of George offering some sort of compensation like as cash settlement, similar humidor or a combination of these, he simply walked away. I don’t know if Chris would have accepted these alternatives but we will not know since they were not offered. But perhaps me might have if George explained the circumstances.

You are right It takes a lifetime to build a name or brand and only seconds to tear it down, but also how you react in the face of adversity is a fair measure also. George has been in this industry along time, he should have plenty of contacts who may have been able to help. Did he reach out to them? We don’t know. George could also have sourced in the US. 1St Class Humidors (Florida) has on their website two 2,000 count humidors similar to what George seemed to offer for about $2,000. Yes George would have been out another $2K, but then it might not have come to this level of discussion

You can’t blame Chris for reaching out on social media, and it seems that nothing was going to get done till this happened.