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Humidor location, location, location.

Started by gitfiddl, 04/17/2014 07:24 AM

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gitfiddl

I've noticed something interesting in the past few months.  The Boveda packs in the three humidors that I keep in the bedroom refuse to dry out.  I'm not complaing, mind you, but they still feel "fresh".  I put the packets in the humidors the end of November 2013, almost 5 months ago  I've got four 69% packets in each of the two 100-ct Tuscany humidors, and two in the smaller Yukon/Capri 50-ct.  The humidity, according to my Xikar hygrometer, in the three humidors is 66%, 67%, and 66% respectively.

By comparison, I find myself replacing the Boveda packets in my other humidors in the den and living every two to three months or so.  The humidity stays in the same range and the humidors are of similar quality as the ones in the bedroom.  

I would say I open the humidors equally, maybe 2-3 times a month.  The only real difference is the location.  Our bedroom is generally a few degrees cooler than the rest of the house during the day, and the adjacent "walk-in" shower gets used two or three times a day so there are brief periods when the ambient humidity may be a little higher.

Could the few degrees difference in temperature make that much of a difference?
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Ken Kelley

Quotegitfiddl - 4/16/2014  10:24 PM

I've noticed something interesting in the past few months.  The Boveda packs in the three humidors that I keep in the bedroom refuse to dry out.  I'm not complaing, mind you, but they still feel "fresh".  I put the packets in the humidors the end of November 2013, almost 5 months ago  I've got four 69% packets in each of the two 100-ct Tuscany humidors, and two in the smaller Yukon/Capri 50-ct.  The humidity, according to my Xikar hygrometer, in the three humidors is 66%, 67%, and 66% respectively.

By comparison, I find myself replacing the Boveda packets in my other humidors in the den and living every two to three months or so.  The humidity stays in the same range and the humidors are of similar quality as the ones in the bedroom.  

I would say I open the humidors equally, maybe 2-3 times a month.  The only real difference is the location.  Our bedroom is generally a few degrees cooler than the rest of the house during the day, and the adjacent "walk-in" shower gets used two or three times a day so there are brief periods when the ambient humidity may be a little higher.

Could the few degrees difference in temperature make that much of a difference?


Could be that the heavy breathing there in the bedroom might keep the humidity up a bit! As I dimly recall from many years ago, the windows of my car fogged up on the inside when I took my girlfriend to the drive-n theater. Could a similar thing be operative in this case?  :biggrin:
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gitfiddl

QuoteKen Kelley - 4/17/2014  10:30 AM

Quotegitfiddl - 4/16/2014  10:24 PM

I've noticed something interesting in the past few months.  The Boveda packs in the three humidors that I keep in the bedroom refuse to dry out.  I'm not complaing, mind you, but they still feel "fresh".  I put the packets in the humidors the end of November 2013, almost 5 months ago  I've got four 69% packets in each of the two 100-ct Tuscany humidors, and two in the smaller Yukon/Capri 50-ct.  The humidity, according to my Xikar hygrometer, in the three humidors is 66%, 67%, and 66% respectively.

By comparison, I find myself replacing the Boveda packets in my other humidors in the den and living every two to three months or so.  The humidity stays in the same range and the humidors are of similar quality as the ones in the bedroom.  

I would say I open the humidors equally, maybe 2-3 times a month.  The only real difference is the location.  Our bedroom is generally a few degrees cooler than the rest of the house during the day, and the adjacent "walk-in" shower gets used two or three times a day so there are brief periods when the ambient humidity may be a little higher.

Could the few degrees difference in temperature make that much of a difference?


Could be that the heavy breathing there in the bedroom might keep the humidity up a bit! As I dimly recall from many years ago, the windows of my car fogged up on the inside when I took my girlfriend to the drive-n theater. Could a similar thing be operative in this case?  :biggrin:

I knew that one was coming. :shades:  

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Mojo66

All but 1 of my humis and coolerdors are in the basement and stay relatively stable all year long.

The one that is on the 1st floor, where it is warmer by a couple of degrees, requires more of my attention and has to be refilled (beads) more often. So I'd say yes, a couple of degrees (and RH difference in the room) would make a difference.
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Quotegitfiddl - 4/17/2014  11:33 AM
I knew that one was coming. :shades:  

Interesting choice of words given the topic.... :biggrin:
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Vroomp

I have boxes in the same room that differ greatly in the length of time a Boveda lasts........Then again,,, one of the Humidors is that POS Humidor Supreme Limited Edition 2000!!!............ You would think with a name like "Supreme", it would last 15 years at least!  :confused:

 

 Best box in the room for keeping steady Rh (besides the Curiodor that is)....................... A cheap Bally glass-top!     Go figure....  :?:

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QuoteVroomp - 4/17/2014  5:17 PM

I have boxes in the same room that differ greatly in the length of time a Boveda lasts........Then again,,, one of the Humidors is that POS Humidor Supreme Limited Edition 2000!!!............ You would think with a name like "Supreme", it would last 15 years at least!  :confused:

 

 Best box in the room for keeping steady Rh (besides the Curiodor that is)....................... A cheap Bally glass-top!     Go figure....  :?:


I have a Bally glass-top that holds great as well. My best though is the LE La Gloria 8 drawer humidor.

Vroomp

This humidor, my wife, gave me keeps perfect 70 RH with only a little DW every other month.....

 

It came from Cuban Crafters but, it seals like an old VW bug! :biggrin:

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CigarPlace

Sometimes the biggest culprit is the seal on the humidor itself but yes location comes into play here a LOT. Sunlight, direct or indirect has an impact, near any HVAC vents, drafty areas and other stuff can cause those problems.

You might also try adding one additional Boveda pack to the humidors that need to be replaced more often to see if that makes a difference. Also, incoming cigars go into which humidor? Cigars that need humidification after shipping are going to absorb more of the good stuff that Boveda gives off. Make sure to keep only packs of the same percentage in each individual humidor as well, as using different ones will cause them to work against one another.

gitfiddl

QuoteCigarPlace - 5/15/2014  5:39 PM

Sometimes the biggest culprit is the seal on the humidor itself but yes location comes into play here a LOT. Sunlight, direct or indirect has an impact, near any HVAC vents, drafty areas and other stuff can cause those problems.

You might also try adding one additional Boveda pack to the humidors that need to be replaced more often to see if that makes a difference. Also, incoming cigars go into which humidor? Cigars that need humidification after shipping are going to absorb more of the good stuff that Boveda gives off. Make sure to keep only packs of the same percentage in each individual humidor as well, as using different ones will cause them to work against one another.

Thanks, Jessica.  Incoming cigars go into a 50-ct desktop.  I've found that most cigars (other than the few I might order from a certain place in Tampa that starts with a "T") tend to come in "wet".  I was just amazed by the difference in the house.
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The Burn Ward

Quotegitfiddl - 5/15/2014  6:11 PM

QuoteCigarPlace - 5/15/2014  5:39 PM

Sometimes the biggest culprit is the seal on the humidor itself but yes location comes into play here a LOT. Sunlight, direct or indirect has an impact, near any HVAC vents, drafty areas and other stuff can cause those problems.

You might also try adding one additional Boveda pack to the humidors that need to be replaced more often to see if that makes a difference. Also, incoming cigars go into which humidor? Cigars that need humidification after shipping are going to absorb more of the good stuff that Boveda gives off. Make sure to keep only packs of the same percentage in each individual humidor as well, as using different ones will cause them to work against one another.

Thanks, Jessica.  Incoming cigars go into a 50-ct desktop.  I've found that most cigars (other than the few I might order from a certain place in Tampa that starts with a "T") tend to come in "wet".  I was just amazed by the difference in the house.

Too wet in there.

Cfickter

There is a definite difference in our house between locations.  Especially upstairs vs downstairs which would make sense since heat rises and the amount in moisture in the air between warn and colder air.
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ntanner

You could test youre theory by moving one from were it is and see if the location change results in the same effect on the RH as you are seeing now.
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My bedroom keeps a higher humidity as well.  Part of it I believe is from the shower (humidity in the room rises about 10 percent in the morning from my wife and I each taking a shower) and the other part is because it is on the northeast side of the house, it only gets direct sunlight in the windows for about 2 hours and the rest of the day it stays really cool in there.

BlackIrish

Quotentanner - 5/15/2014  8:54 PM

You could test youre theory by moving one from were it is and see if the location change results in the same effect on the RH as you are seeing now.

^^I'd do this to figure out whether it's the location or the humidor.
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