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Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO
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CarlosoftHUN
Posted 9/11/2017 7:58 AM (#721940)
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I am looking some Dutch cigars - I know most of them machine made, but I like their taste more - and there are VOC, or XO, or either VOC XO....

but no clue really what the VOC or the XO means, and what is the difference in case of two cigar, if both is the same brand and class, but one of them saying Robusto XO, or Robusto VOC, and the other just a robusto??

thanks in advance for explaining it!
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Posted 9/11/2017 9:20 AM (#721945 - in reply to #721940)
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These terms are usually associated with Congnac and XO= Extra Old aged for 4 years or more, while VOC= Very Old Cognac which is aged for 8 years or more.... I will assume these are infused or aged in Cognac casks......
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Posted 9/11/2017 5:22 PM (#721977 - in reply to #721940)
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The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlands also export many cigars.
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Posted 9/11/2017 10:29 PM (#721999 - in reply to #721977)
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amigodecigars - 9/11/2017 5:22 PM

The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlan also export many cigars.


Just wondering... What does this have to do with the original question?
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Posted 9/12/2017 4:33 PM (#722045 - in reply to #721999)
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bstessl - 9/11/2017 10:29 PM

amigodecigars - 9/11/2017 5:22 PM

The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlan also export many cigars.


Just wondering... What does this have to do with the original question?


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Posted 9/12/2017 5:03 PM (#722046 - in reply to #722045)
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It seems that John may know a bit more about these cigars from the Netherlands, and was adding useful information about European sourced cigars ...I suggest a re-read of his response, the clues are there!
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Posted 9/13/2017 4:49 AM (#722082 - in reply to #721940)
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Thank for the help so far, but I still fail to get what XO and VOC means in the cigar world. I understanding that most of the cases it has been used in Dutch cigars - as far as I have seen - but there should be some general explanation for the terms.
Till then I may assume that Vroomp's terminology from cognacs might stands here too.
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Posted 9/13/2017 6:05 AM (#722085 - in reply to #722082)
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CarlosoftHUN - 9/13/2017 5:49 AM Thank for the help so far, but I still fail to get what XO and VOC means in the cigar world. I understanding that most of the cases it has been used in Dutch cigars - as far as I have seen - but there should be some general explanation for the terms. Till then I may assume that Vroomp's terminology from cognacs might stands here too.

 Pretty sure these terms are being used in the same way as the 1502 XO uses 18 year aged tobaccos.........

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