CIGAR RESOURCES
 
HOME
CIGAR DATABASE
CIGAR REVIEWS
CIGAR PASSES
CIGAR PLACES
CIGAR NEWS
MY HUMIDOR
FORUMS
CALENDARS
ARTICLES
CIGAR SIZER
PHOTO ALBUMS
QUOTES
SITE LINKS
SHOPPING
 
SITE RESOURCES
 
ARCADE
LOGON
MEMBERS LIST
HUMIDORS
SEARCH FORUMS
SEARCH CIGARS
SEARCH REVIEWS
POINTS SYSTEM
 
ABOUT US
 
WHO WE ARE?
CONTACT US
ADVERTISE
 
RSS FEEDS
 
FORUMS
REVIEWS
 
SPONSORS









You are logged in as a guest. ( logon | register )


Random quote: A youth with his first cigar makes himself sick; a youth with his first girl makes other people sick. - Mary Wilson
- (Added by: texlewee)



Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
View previous thread :: View next thread
   Members Lounge -> General Cigar DiscussionMessage format
 
CarlosoftHUN
Posted 9/11/2017 7:58 AM (#721940)
Subject: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Regular

Joined: 7/16/2017

Posts: 50
2525

Points: 245
10010025
Feedback Rating: 0
Location: Varpalota/Budapest/Hungary

I am looking some Dutch cigars - I know most of them machine made, but I like their taste more - and there are VOC, or XO, or either VOC XO....

but no clue really what the VOC or the XO means, and what is the difference in case of two cigar, if both is the same brand and class, but one of them saying Robusto XO, or Robusto VOC, and the other just a robusto??

thanks in advance for explaining it!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Vroomp
Posted 9/11/2017 9:20 AM (#721945 - in reply to #721940)
Subject: RE: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Extreme Guru

Joined: 7/29/2012

Posts: 8634
50002000100050010025

Points: 15169
5000500050001002525
Feedback Rating: 250
Location: 'Hotlanta' Near the big chicken!

Badges:
These terms are usually associated with Congnac and XO= Extra Old aged for 4 years or more, while VOC= Very Old Cognac which is aged for 8 years or more.... I will assume these are infused or aged in Cognac casks......
Top of the page Bottom of the page
amigodecigars
Posted 9/11/2017 5:22 PM (#721977 - in reply to #721940)
Subject: RE: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Elite Veteran

Joined: 8/18/2012

Posts: 1102
1000100

Points: 1277
1000100100252525
Feedback Rating: 13
Location: Costa Rica

Badges:
The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlands also export many cigars.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
bstessl
Posted 9/11/2017 10:29 PM (#721999 - in reply to #721977)
Subject: RE: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Expert

Joined: 12/25/2013

Posts: 2120
2000100

Points: 3120
20001000100
Feedback Rating: 71


Badges:
amigodecigars - 9/11/2017 5:22 PM

The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlan also export many cigars.


Just wondering... What does this have to do with the original question?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
05Venturer
Posted 9/12/2017 4:33 PM (#722045 - in reply to #721999)
Subject: RE: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Guru

Joined: 10/19/2013

Posts: 7208
50002000100100

Points: 10688
50005000500100252525
Feedback Rating: 192
Location: Packerland & Badger Country

Badges:
bstessl - 9/11/2017 10:29 PM

amigodecigars - 9/11/2017 5:22 PM

The factory in Puriscal, Costa Rica makes some cigars that are shipped to The Hague for Sasja van Horssen with the bands "DeGraaff."  We send both short and long fillers.  De Graaff cigars have been hand-made for generations by the old established house of cigar makers De Graaff, using only the highest grade tobaccos from Brazil, Cuba and Indonesia. The tobaccos are blended in their factory according to old family recipes which conscientiously are kept a secret. One of the advantages of their cigars is that no artificial tobacco is used, another that each cigar has its own particular sophisticated composition, resulting in an unique balance between fragrance and taste.                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sasja van Horssen, Cigar importer, connoisseur and seller, the biggest importer of non-Cuban cigars in the Netherlands.   The Netherlan also export many cigars.


Just wondering... What does this have to do with the original question?


Mindreader
Top of the page Bottom of the page
nirab
Posted 9/12/2017 5:03 PM (#722046 - in reply to #722045)
Subject: RE: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Elite Guru

Joined: 5/6/2012

Posts: 10736
5000500050010010025

Points: 16471
50005000500010001001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 279
Location: Beeuudaful Buda, Texas! HOOK EM! \m/

Badges:
It seems that John may know a bit more about these cigars from the Netherlands, and was adding useful information about European sourced cigars ...I suggest a re-read of his response, the clues are there!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
CarlosoftHUN
Posted 9/13/2017 4:49 AM (#722082 - in reply to #721940)
Subject: Re: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Regular

Joined: 7/16/2017

Posts: 50
2525

Points: 245
10010025
Feedback Rating: 0
Location: Varpalota/Budapest/Hungary

Thank for the help so far, but I still fail to get what XO and VOC means in the cigar world. I understanding that most of the cases it has been used in Dutch cigars - as far as I have seen - but there should be some general explanation for the terms.
Till then I may assume that Vroomp's terminology from cognacs might stands here too.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Vroomp
Posted 9/13/2017 6:05 AM (#722085 - in reply to #722082)
Subject: Re: Help needed in Cigar terminology: VOC & XO



Extreme Guru

Joined: 7/29/2012

Posts: 8634
50002000100050010025

Points: 15169
5000500050001002525
Feedback Rating: 250
Location: 'Hotlanta' Near the big chicken!

Badges:

CarlosoftHUN - 9/13/2017 5:49 AM Thank for the help so far, but I still fail to get what XO and VOC means in the cigar world. I understanding that most of the cases it has been used in Dutch cigars - as far as I have seen - but there should be some general explanation for the terms. Till then I may assume that Vroomp's terminology from cognacs might stands here too.

 Pretty sure these terms are being used in the same way as the 1502 XO uses 18 year aged tobaccos.........

Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread


(Delete all cookies set by this site)

Connect with us:             Del.icio.us

Home  |  Contact Us  |  Advertise  |  Cigar Passes  |  Cigar Database  |  Virtual Humidor  |  Forums 

Copyright © 2007-2017 Cigar Geeks, Inc. All rights reserved.    Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service