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What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
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junglepete
Posted 1/7/2018 9:58 AM (#732069)
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So, my darling wife bought me a box of 4x60 mixed Tubos of Oliva Nubs. I thought they did not look like a 60 ring gauge so I measured a few of them. They were consistenly 7/8"...which amounts to a 56 ring gauge not a 60 at all. So now I was curious and took out an Oliva V Doule Robusto to measure. They consistently measured at barely 3/4"...which amounts to a whopping 48 ring gauge. Now I feel cheated!! I suppose I could understand about a bit of shrinkage, but really, touted as a 56 and customers receive a 48, that's equal to the shrikage of a man being submerged in a cold swimming pool.
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Deener27
Posted 1/7/2018 12:06 PM (#732072 - in reply to #732069)
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With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.
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Brlesq
Posted 1/7/2018 12:08 PM (#732073 - in reply to #732072)
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Deener27 - 1/7/2018 1:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.




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junglepete
Posted 1/7/2018 4:06 PM (#732084 - in reply to #732072)
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Deener27 - 1/7/2018 4:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.


good one!

Now that I think about it, again, if they really did shrink, would not the band be sliding off? All the bands on my cigars fit perfectly. My humidity is a constant 65%. I think advertising a 54 ring gauge when it is actually a 48 is a bit too much of a discrepancy. Hmm...6/64" is only approx. 1/10"...seems like not much in the end. But when purchasing a Robusto vs. a Double Robusto, the price sure is different.
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shakinghorizons
Posted 1/7/2018 6:41 PM (#732088 - in reply to #732069)
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Very strange find indeed. I can honestly say I've never once measured a ring gauge or length.
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headfirst
Posted 1/7/2018 8:27 PM (#732092 - in reply to #732069)
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I'll have to post a picture of some Padilla Vintage Reserve I bought. They're box pressed and I swear within the same box I saw everything from 46 to 56 size...
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Cfickter
Posted 1/8/2018 6:55 AM (#732102 - in reply to #732069)
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Sounds like the makings of a good conspiracy plot!
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Deener27
Posted 1/8/2018 7:57 AM (#732109 - in reply to #732084)
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Deener27 - 1/7/2018 4:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.


good one!

Now that I think about it, again, if they really did shrink, would not the band be sliding off? All the bands on my cigars fit perfectly. My humidity is a constant 65%. I think advertising a 54 ring gauge when it is actually a 48 is a bit too much of a discrepancy. Hmm...6/64" is only approx. 1/10"...seems like not much in the end. But when purchasing a Robusto vs. a Double Robusto, the price sure is different.


If they did shrink, the bands would come right off, unless they have taken to gluing them to the wrapper (which, I swear, a few brands are terrible about doing).

Sounds like there is something going on to me.
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Cap10_Morgan
Posted 1/8/2018 9:02 AM (#732114 - in reply to #732069)
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This might explain why I had a hard time finding the right sizes when I was first adding a bunch of random cigars to my humidor from the database. I'm pretty sure there were some Oliva I has an issue with as well.
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Posted 1/8/2018 9:16 AM (#732116 - in reply to #732069)
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I was always told that size isn't everything......have I been lied to all this time????
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Posted 1/8/2018 9:26 AM (#732117 - in reply to #732116)
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Silverstix - 1/8/2018 9:16 AM

I was always told that size isn't everything......have I been lied to all this time????
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DRuff
Posted 1/8/2018 12:09 PM (#732121 - in reply to #732069)
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So, you're one of those "measuring" types, eh?
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DonM
Posted 1/8/2018 2:15 PM (#732126 - in reply to #732069)
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Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G...



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Otter
Posted 1/9/2018 5:40 PM (#732177 - in reply to #732126)
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DonM - 1/8/2018 6:15 PM

Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G...





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MusicCity
Posted 1/10/2018 10:22 AM (#732188 - in reply to #732177)
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I've noticed bands on a few sticks are looser after keeping them at a lower RH. Doesn't bother me though because I'm not a size queen ;)
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nirab
Posted 1/10/2018 5:02 PM (#732204 - in reply to #732188)
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quickly smoke em, and then forget about em...move on to the next one...or two!
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Posted 1/10/2018 6:19 PM (#732206 - in reply to #732126)
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DonM - 1/8/2018 6:15 PM

Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G...





Hmm....I don't own a caliper, however, that might not be a bad idea. Then I'll write an article here and add all the actual gauge sizes to all the brands I smoke
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