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The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
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DRuff
Posted 9/24/2018 4:11 PM (#754172)
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bstessl
Posted 9/24/2018 4:31 PM (#754173 - in reply to #754172)
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But, you can't copy and paste the good info...
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Posted 9/24/2018 6:17 PM (#754178 - in reply to #754172)
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Agreed, there is nothing of value in "score-only" review like that to the reader. But until recently, the author (Kyle Stogez) used to post his scoring format along with some descriptive terms of his entire smoking experience that I thought was helpful. Maybe not formatted the traditional way that most people prefer, but perfectly acceptable IMO. Here's an example:











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DRuff
Posted 9/24/2018 10:11 PM (#754188 - in reply to #754172)
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Posted 9/24/2018 11:10 PM (#754190 - in reply to #754172)
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Numbers only.............about like smoking a "dollar stick".............Numbers and a little Description - well now - that's a mid range to " high end yard gar"............Numbers, Description and a Pic - now you are in Padron Country.
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Posted 9/25/2018 7:12 AM (#754194 - in reply to #754172)
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While I agree using a straight ranking by numbers doesn't feed the masses. for the most part it is personal to the reviewer. What is an 8 to someone is an 9 to or 7 to another, where one tastes cedar another tastes leather.

I have generally tried to be more narrative with my reviews, especially the critiques. But even the Geek critique rating system puts too much weight on items like appearance and construction while the flavor profile only accounts for 1/3. far too small IMHO

I'm not sure any system is perfect.
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Posted 9/25/2018 7:28 AM (#754196 - in reply to #754172)
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I usually use the following categories and values, along with a description in each:

Appearance: 15
Smoking Characteristics: 25
Taste: 25
Overall: 35

I may tweak this though, going back through my notes I find there are too many times when a cigar burns great and looks great but tastes like cardboard, but it ends up too close in score to say a Padron which is ugly as sin but tastes very good.
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Posted 9/25/2018 7:30 AM (#754197 - in reply to #754172)
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Maybe I'll do:

Appearance: 10
Smoking Characteristics: 20
Taste: 35
Overall: 35
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Posted 10/1/2018 5:41 PM (#754412 - in reply to #754172)
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So I realize I'm a new guy on the block here but these points only reviews are basically worthless to a newbie looking to try new cigars.
My 2 cents is that is your going to review you should put at least some effort into it. I see 4 more just showed up like this.
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Posted 10/1/2018 6:06 PM (#754413 - in reply to #754412)
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kurtb718 - 10/1/2018 3:41 PM

So I realize I'm a new guy on the block here but these points only reviews are basically worthless to a newbie looking to try new cigars.
My 2 cents is that is your going to review you should put at least some effort into it. I see 4 more just showed up like this.


When I PMed Kyle Stogez about it, he replied "I really don't give a s**t." Maybe an Admin could message him and ask him to update his reviews to be a bit more descriptive, or maybe just ban him.
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Posted 10/1/2018 7:22 PM (#754416 - in reply to #754172)
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4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...
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Posted 10/1/2018 7:55 PM (#754418 - in reply to #754172)
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Those reviews are completely useless lol
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Posted 10/1/2018 8:22 PM (#754419 - in reply to #754418)
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"Please note that there is a minimum number of characters required (150) in order to submit a review so that your experience may provide others with some helpful information. A very brief synopsis regarding flavor, construction and burn will suffice, but feel free to be as detailed as you desire."

The above is the requirement. I will PM the member and ask him to meet it.
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Posted 10/1/2018 11:51 PM (#754420 - in reply to #754172)
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what I do not understand is, if someone can give detailed scoring, why he is unable to give the reasoning? I mean if you explain why you gave low score on taste, because it was no taste, or bitter, etc, BAMM.. you are already there to give useful information.... and does not really require too much effort....
Or they are so lazy?
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Posted 10/2/2018 5:15 AM (#754421 - in reply to #754420)
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Speaking as a person relatively new to cigars I like to see a lot of info in the review. It not only helps me as far as selection but also things to be aware of when smoking a cigar.
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Posted 10/2/2018 6:02 AM (#754423 - in reply to #754420)
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CarlosoftHUN - 10/1/2018 11:51 PM

what I do not understand is, if someone can give detailed scoring, why he is unable to give the reasoning? I mean if you explain why you gave low score on taste, because it was no taste, or bitter, etc, BAMM.. you are already there to give useful information.... and does not really require too much effort....
Or they are so lazy?


It is a points grab to try to get the $25 GC from the monthly points contest.

It is completely against the rules (the 150 word count or better writeup) and really waters down the whole rating system.

It is just disappointing because CG is held in such high regard and this just tarnishes things.
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Posted 10/2/2018 6:04 AM (#754424 - in reply to #754416)
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bstessl - 10/1/2018 7:22 PM

4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...


He's an amateur anyway. I have seen you review 6 sticks in 4 minutes, smoking them one by one, all while drinking a beer and doing a podcast...and none of them had burn issues.
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Posted 10/2/2018 10:31 AM (#754429 - in reply to #754424)
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bstessl - 10/1/2018 7:22 PM 4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...
He's an amateur anyway. I have seen you review 6 sticks in 4 minutes, smoking them one by one, all while drinking a beer and doing a podcast...and none of them had burn issues.
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Posted 10/4/2018 8:56 AM (#754508 - in reply to #754172)
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How would you all rate my reviews? Any specific info I should include that I've omitted?

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Posted 10/9/2018 12:15 PM (#754774 - in reply to #754172)
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Sometimes, like today, I am posting my reviews from my weekend smokes and I will often post 2 or 3 in a day. I don't have much access to a computer on the weekends and it's too cumbersome for me to do the reviews on my phone, so I keep my notes and post them when I get in front of my computer.
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Posted 10/11/2018 11:14 AM (#754817 - in reply to #754774)
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Silverstix - 10/9/2018 12:15 PM Sometimes, like today, I am posting my reviews from my weekend smokes and I will often post 2 or 3 in a day. I don't have much access to a computer on the weekends and it's too cumbersome for me to do the reviews on my phone, so I keep my notes and post them when I get in front of my computer.

 



Nothing wrong with that. It's just when somebody has a copy and paste review where they change one adjective throughout the review... Lol
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