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Deadl0ck
Posted 11/8/2018 5:47 PM (#755806)
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As a newbie, I'm wondering if any of the more experienced smokers have any suggestions on what must-haves there are. Preferably on a budget, since my disposable income is generally speaking very limited.

 

I currently have: A simple jet lighter to toast and light the cigar with, a simple 2 sided guillotine cutter, a simple 15-20 cigar table humidor and a simple cigar ashtray.  

 I've been looking at getting some stuff from china, (aliexpress) but I don't know if that's going to be worth the money, it tends to be very hit and miss, is my experience. I've been eyeing a few different style cutters, like 3 blade scissors, and a simple 2 dollar v-cutter, and a 3 jet lighter (as mine is a bit dodgy) on there.

 

Cheers for the advice, in advance! 

 

 

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Mautrak
Posted 11/8/2018 6:04 PM (#755808 - in reply to #755806)
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An absolute must-have? A cigar. That's it. Everything else is icing on the cake. You can live without a torch lighter, or without a nice cutter. But you have to have a cigar. From that point, sit down, relax, enjoy the cigar, and you're doing it right.
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Posted 11/8/2018 6:56 PM (#755810 - in reply to #755806)
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Seems like your question is about accessories. There is one that I got about a year ago that I wish I had when I first started, the perfecdraw. It basically bores a little hole down the shaft to take care of plugs and tight draws, and you can bore that hole as far down the shaft as you want but it usually only takes about 1/2 inch to an inch to fix the issue.

I can't tell you how many cigars I come across where the draw is not what it should be whether the cigar be pricey or budget-friendly. The tool runs $40 or so, but even a basic ice pick could probably do just as well. My advice would be to figure out a tool for getting the draw right. A tight draw will ruin what should be a great tasting cigar every time.

To me the lighters and cutters and stuff don't matter so much, nice to have good ones I guess but cheapies still cut 'em and light 'em just fine for me...
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Posted 11/8/2018 9:18 PM (#755815 - in reply to #755806)
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To piggy back on Gary's suggestion of a Perfect Draw, I use a wooden skewer. Just ream the cigar with it until it opens up a little bit. Nothing worse than fighting a tight draw.

I did purchase a decent Xikar guillotine cutter. They have lifetime warranties and work great. If they get dull you just mail it in or take it to a shop that sells them and get a new one. Cheaper cutters tend to dull much quicker and you end up pinching the end of the cigar more than cutting it. You can find a Xikar Xi for about $25 on sale...or up to a couple hundred dollars for a fancy one.

I've got probably a dozen lighters, everything from single to quad flame. Most I've gotten for free. They can always be found free or super cheap. The key is to use quality butane. Both Xikar and Colibri make triple distilled butane, save money on the lighter itself and spend the extra couple bucks on good butane.
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Posted 11/8/2018 10:32 PM (#755818 - in reply to #755806)
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I started with an inexpensive two-blade guillotine cutter. Then I paid the price for an Xigar Xi2 cutter. Best money I've spent - other than good cigars. Perdomo Fresco is an excellent value stick.
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Chefjohn
Posted 11/9/2018 3:51 AM (#755820 - in reply to #755818)
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Good advice from the veterans here. I use The Perfect Cutter by Cuban Crafters. The opening for the cigar has a backstop so so always cut the correct amount from the stick. It also has a lifetime guarantee.
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Posted 11/9/2018 6:41 AM (#755822 - in reply to #755806)
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I 2nd the Perfect Cutter by Cuban Crafters. It's like $20 It made a HUGE difference. I had a generic two-blade guillotine cutter before and was hacking off more of the cigar. The Perfect Cutter does exactly what it's supposed to.

Also if you have a humidor - invest in some Bovedas and a cheap digital hygrometer. You can pick them up in Ebay for less than $5 and they work fine. The bovedas will keep your cigars and the perfect RH and you don't have to worry about a thing
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Posted 11/9/2018 6:58 AM (#755823 - in reply to #755806)
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Like others commenting here, I strongly suggest investing in a good cutter. Even before you invest in a good lighter. IMHO Xikar is the best. I have several and they are top quality backed by lifetime warranty. Sometimes, if you are not too picky on color or style, you can find a good deal on C-Bid. I picked up Xikar Xi cutters on two different occasions for under $25 ea.

An inexpensive jet lighter is fine, you can find good one for under $10 easily and better for under $15. I would suggest staying away from the three and four flame models. Just too easy to over toast the stick and wastes fuel. Also invest a good quality fuel. My personal choice is a butane soft flame. Again some good choices out there for a few more bucks.

Now lets talk about your humidor, critical choice here on how you store your cigars and there are a number of very good and inexpensive options. Size matters, so use the metric approach. Think of the number of cigars you may want to hold, double it, and add 32. Once you have that number, go buy 2 of them.
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Posted 11/9/2018 6:58 AM (#755824 - in reply to #755806)
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Draw Poker & a Xikar cutter and your sett. I prefer to light my cigars with wooden matches if wind is not an issue. As far as lighter I pick up cheap torches on ebay fo ra buck or 2 a piece and if they quit I chuck it. I truthfully have $2 lighters that have lasted years.
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Posted 11/9/2018 11:16 AM (#755831 - in reply to #755824)
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05Venturer - 11/9/2018 7:58 AM Draw Poker & a Xikar cutter and your sett. I prefer to light my cigars with wooden matches if wind is not an issue. As far as lighter I pick up cheap torches on ebay fo ra buck or 2 a piece and if they quit I chuck it. I truthfully have $2 lighters that have lasted years.

Wooden matches are the ideal way to light a cigar.

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Posted 11/9/2018 12:56 PM (#755837 - in reply to #755831)
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05Venturer - 11/9/2018 7:58 AM Draw Poker & a Xikar cutter and your sett. I prefer to light my cigars with wooden matches if wind is not an issue. As far as lighter I pick up cheap torches on ebay fo ra buck or 2 a piece and if they quit I chuck it. I truthfully have $2 lighters that have lasted years.

Wooden matches are the ideal way to light a cigar.



Oh look what we have here. A purist. 
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Posted 11/9/2018 2:08 PM (#755839 - in reply to #755837)
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05Venturer - 11/9/2018 7:58 AM Draw Poker & a Xikar cutter and your sett. I prefer to light my cigars with wooden matches if wind is not an issue. As far as lighter I pick up cheap torches on ebay fo ra buck or 2 a piece and if they quit I chuck it. I truthfully have $2 lighters that have lasted years.

Wooden matches are the ideal way to light a cigar.



Oh look what we have here. A purist. 


An when I do use a match to light my cigar my pinky finger sticks out
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Posted 11/9/2018 2:46 PM (#755841 - in reply to #755837)
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A good cutter is a must.The lighter can be less expensive.
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Posted 11/9/2018 5:42 PM (#755847 - in reply to #755806)
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XiKars are excellent cutters, but I would recommend spending a few bucks more and going with the Palio. They are incredibly sharp, keep their edge, and if you have any problem at all, any seller of them are required to take them back without question and issue you a replacement (no need to mail back).
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Posted 11/9/2018 6:13 PM (#755850 - in reply to #755806)
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AND............BOOZE - don't forget the BOOZE.
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Posted 11/9/2018 11:54 PM (#755863 - in reply to #755806)
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I general, buy quality stuff.

* Don’t buy a cheap wood humidor. You have to spend $300 for a real hardwood humidor with real 1/4 inch Spanish cedar lined box. I picked up a custom handcrafted wood humidor that cost $600 but I got it used off Craigslist for $280. The cheap humidors are veneered particle board with a thin veneer of Spanish cedar. However, instead of spending the $300 on a quality wood box to store a couple dozen cigars, buy a large cooler and store hundreds of cigars. If you must have a wood humidor look at Ammodor. http://www.ammodors.com
* For humidification, buy Boveda packs, for a hygrometer, buy the Boveda Butler for $20 - https://bovedainc.com/store/tobacco/boveda-butler/
* Lighters, matches work but look at Jetline lighters. http://www.jetlinelighter.com
There are inexpensive and all kinds of styles.
* Cutters, Either buy cheap and replace often, or buy quality like Xikar with a lifetime warranty. I have a Swiss Army 36 knife that has a cigar cutter as one of the tools. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IIEFGXG/ref=s9_dcacsd_dcoop_bw_... I carry a knife almost all the time so the SAK 36 works great.
* Then I have a Xikar VX2 v-cut. https://www.xikar.com/products/cutters/vx2/ Then my lighter has a cigar punch built in.
* I have a PerfectDraw $30 and food glue in case I damage a wrapper and need to repair it. http://perfecdraw.com

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Posted 11/12/2018 7:16 PM (#755934 - in reply to #755806)
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Thanks everyone for the advice!

I'm pretty set for draw fixing, I have a few tobacco pokers amongst my pipe tools, including a small hand drill for blocked draft holes, that I've already used on shortfillers before.

I'll have browse at the local tobacconist to see what kind of cutters he has on offer, and get the local price. Most of the stuff reccomended here doesn't seem to be readily available to me (aside from Xikar) as I'm in europe, and ordering from the US adds a roughly 20 dollar shipping cost, and I'll have to fork out import taxes on anything over 22 dollars.

I've gotten a lot of good tips however, so again, thank you all!
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Posted 11/13/2018 8:02 AM (#755950 - in reply to #755847)
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Jackal - 11/9/2018 6:42 PM Xikars are excellent cutters, but I would recommend spending a few bucks more and going with the Palio. They are incredibly sharp, keep their edge, and if you have any problem at all, any seller of them are required to take them back without question and issue you a replacement (no need to mail back).


Yes, Palio is a very good cutter but I paid less for a Palio than Xikar.  If you are careful and not over picky on color or finish you can get either on CBid at a pretty good price.  I paid $24 for a Xikar Xi2 Granite and as little as $14 for a Palio.  It is all in the timing.  All so like Palio Xikar dealers will do on the spot warranty exchanges. 

And you do not need to spend $300 on a humidor.  I have picked up 150 or 100 count humidors for under $100 that are damn good.  I have a Sterling 100 display humidor that I paid $70 for and it holds my everyday, easy to reach smokes, despite the glass tops it never gives me an issue.
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