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DonM
Posted 1/4/2019 4:16 PM (#761127)
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So the Nanny state's mentality had to come south, this sucks!

https://halfwheel.com/florida-state-senator-introduces-bill-banning-...

I have always enjoyed smoking a good cigar on the beach. Oh my, I hope this don't pass
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Posted 1/4/2019 7:01 PM (#761139 - in reply to #761127)
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Just what we need, more rules.

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toby2
Posted 1/4/2019 8:25 PM (#761142 - in reply to #761127)
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stupid laws.... too windy for me though. it never works out for me.
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Posted 1/4/2019 8:38 PM (#761143 - in reply to #761127)
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Posted 1/5/2019 6:11 AM (#761178 - in reply to #761127)
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This $hyte has been going on for years and it extends to a condo I own in San Diego....no cigar smoking on my balcony or at the pool area and BBQ area.

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Posted 1/5/2019 1:06 PM (#761198 - in reply to #761178)
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Cigary - 1/5/2019 10:11 AM

This $hyte has been going on for years and it extends to a condo I own in San Diego....no cigar smoking on my balcony or at the pool area and BBQ area.


I owned a Condo......once. Never again. HOA's and Condo Associations govern your lifestyle, not to mention the nosy neighbor's that want to get into all of your business. You can't wash your car there, park or store the Harley here. You cant park that boat here. I used to drive them bat shyt crazy. At the time there was not a no smoking policy at the pool. I used to fire cigars up and listen to them whine. For awhile I tried to be courteous, but that got me no where.

And then I moved!


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Posted 1/14/2019 10:20 AM (#761511 - in reply to #761127)
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Not all HOAs are the same. Where I live, they really just want to minimize major things. I can wash my car and motorcycle in the driveway. I can't KEEP a boat or RV there all the time, but it's fine for a few days to work on it or whatever. And that's fine with me, as the streets are too narrow to have them littered with RVs and boats. Meanwhile we pay very little and they do a great job of maintaining the roads and parks. We have four beautiful parks where we take the dogs. The city park is brown and everything is broken. Our roads are perfect, and as soon as we leave the HOA area the city road is absolute garbage and the landscaping is trash. So it's a compromise, one that works well for us. Also doing something like having an RV at home will get you a letter and TWO WEEKS before they fine you.
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Posted 1/14/2019 10:26 AM (#761512 - in reply to #761511)
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calvarez - 1/14/2019 11:20 AM

Not all HOAs are the same. Where I live, they really just want to minimize major things. I can wash my car and motorcycle in the driveway. I can't KEEP a boat or RV there all the time, but it's fine for a few days to work on it or whatever. And that's fine with me, as the streets are too narrow to have them littered with RVs and boats. Meanwhile we pay very little and they do a great job of maintaining the roads and parks. We have four beautiful parks where we take the dogs. The city park is brown and everything is broken. Our roads are perfect, and as soon as we leave the HOA area the city road is absolute garbage and the landscaping is trash. So it's a compromise, one that works well for us. Also doing something like having an RV at home will get you a letter and TWO WEEKS before they fine you.


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calvarez
Posted 1/14/2019 10:35 AM (#761513 - in reply to #761127)
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Oh,and we had our own bit of anarchy once. For a short time, we had a real nazi inspector/community manager. I swear sometimes I'd have a letter in my mailbox when I was just thinking about doing something against the rules. She didn't last long, people said she had too little tolerance for minor s**t and they replaced her. (She's an HOA management company employee, not elected by us.)

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Posted 1/14/2019 10:37 AM (#761514 - in reply to #761127)
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Won't stop me. I've never bumped into an officer on my morning walks so I doubt I will going forward. I don't usually smoke once I have the family and such on the beach, just too much going on.

But I agree, it's silly. Just can't let folks live, gotta control everything. I can't smoke a cigar on the beach but your bada** little sh*ts can do whatever they want and generally ruin my day at the beach because parents are too lazy to discipline. Makes sense....
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Posted 1/14/2019 10:48 AM (#761515 - in reply to #761127)
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That's a shame if they pass that bill. I'll bite my tongue on this one about government.
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calvarez
Posted 1/14/2019 11:15 AM (#761516 - in reply to #761127)
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Have you heard that Utah banned all cigar shipments into the state unless you're a licensed dealer? So much for their "conservative" government.
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Posted 1/14/2019 11:19 AM (#761518 - in reply to #761516)
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calvarez - 1/14/2019 12:15 PM Have you heard that Utah banned all cigar shipments into the state unless you're a licensed dealer? So much for their "conservative" government.

  Do you have a link?

 

  Kind of hard to open every single box looking for cigars don't ya think?

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calvarez
Posted 1/14/2019 11:47 AM (#761519 - in reply to #761127)
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No link, I've just been talking to a few people in Utah and assume they are not lying. The USPS won't open boxes, but none of the major sites will ship there now that it's illegal. Like I can't get K&L Wines to ship whisky to AZ, so it goes to my brother in CA and he slaps on a USPS label to get it to me. I've offered the guys in Utah to join me on group buys and I'll re-ship.
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Posted 1/14/2019 12:07 PM (#761520 - in reply to #761127)
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I am not a lawyer, not have I stayed at a Holiday Inn lately, but isn't this restraint of trade?
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calvarez
Posted 1/14/2019 12:23 PM (#761522 - in reply to #761127)
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Not at all. Restraint of trade is actually kind of the opposite of what I think you're thinking. It prevents monopolies and agreements NOT to trade.
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Posted 1/14/2019 12:47 PM (#761523 - in reply to #761127)
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Posted 1/14/2019 2:37 PM (#761526 - in reply to #761520)
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Cfickter - 1/14/2019 1:07 PM

I am not a lawyer, not have I stayed at a Holiday Inn lately, but isn't this restraint of trade?


No different than PA not permitting liquor to be mailed to its citizens.
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