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Astros forfeit their 2017 World Series Championship4 Votes - [17.39%]
Astro team should get a playoff ban for a number of years4 Votes - [17.39%]
Astro players must give up all bonus monies earned ($32M)6 Votes - [26.09%]
Astro players should be suspended for the whole season1 Votes - [4.35%]
Astro players should be suspended for part of the season1 Votes - [4.35%]
Decision has been made, lets move on...5 Votes - [21.74%]
Hang trophy like a piñata and give everyone in Dodgers lineup 3 swings2 Votes - [8.7%]
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Cfickter
Posted 2/11/2020 1:52 PM (#776219)
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With the beginning of baseball spring training all the news is about the Astros cheating scandal.  

MLB fined then $5M and the manager and GM lost their jobs, two other players who were signed as managers also lost jobs. 

Is that enough?
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benchjockey
Posted 2/11/2020 2:14 PM (#776221 - in reply to #776219)
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In addition to losing their top two draft picks for the next two seasons, I think the Astros should have lost money from their International Pool. For years the Yankees have made up for low draft picks with international signings. Luis Severino and Gary Sanchez are just two examples.
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Posted 2/12/2020 10:31 AM (#776233 - in reply to #776221)
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benchjockey - 2/11/2020 3:14 PM In addition to losing their top two draft picks for the next two seasons, I think the Astros should have lost money from their International Pool. For years the Yankees have made up for low draft picks with international signings. Luis Severino and Gary Sanchez are just two examples.

 I like the idea of losing international pool money, a lot of team now have deep programs and even academies in places like the DR.  I think the loss of draft picks plays a much less role in baseball vs the other major sports.  It generally takes time for first round prospects to develop and with the MLB draft being a bizarre mixture of pick and money rules you would have to make sure they do not get compensatory pick, bonus money etc...

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ninfiction
Posted 2/12/2020 10:55 AM (#776234 - in reply to #776219)
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I think Rob Manfred should be fired. He gave all the players immunity with the hopes of sweeping the whole thing under the rug. The teams weren't really punished, a couple guys lost their jobs. The whole thing was handled poorly with no real punishments handed out except for the couple guys out of jobs.

What about the fact that many players were affected both positively (new contracts) and negatively (out of the bigs)?

I remember the late 90's when the steroid era was also being ignored by baseball. Teams were making money and popularity was on the rise. That's all that matters, not integrity. Manfred wouldn't have done jack squat except the word got out....and he didn't really do anything after the word got out.
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Kid Montana
Posted 2/12/2020 11:18 AM (#776235 - in reply to #776219)
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I think everyone close to the scandal should be lined up and shot, their children and spouses publicly humiliated, and everyone else in any MLB organization who played for the Astros between 2017 and 2019 should be banned for life, then revoke the Astros' franchise. Anything less than that and the armchair adjudicators will never be satisfied.

edit: and yes, I'm salty, and yes I did throw out my 2017 WS championship gear. its not like I can ever wear it in public again...

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BewareDaPenguin
Posted 2/12/2020 11:40 AM (#776236 - in reply to #776219)
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Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame if they let all this stand. He was never found guilty of anything. Don’t get me wrong I’m not a Barry Bonds sympathizer (well I guess I am in a way lol) but if cheating is cheating then the whole franchise should be liable. IE they should also “get the death penalty”...no post season for X years, no Intl Pool Money, everything else listed above. It makes me sick baseball writers etc have always “praised” America’s Game as clean as apple pie, yet it’s still dirty like all sports so get over yourself and own it! If you let this go then let bonds in, let rose in, etc that’s how I feel anyways
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DonM
Posted 2/13/2020 5:52 AM (#776249 - in reply to #776219)
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No horse in this race, not a baseball guy. But! It isn't cheating till you get caught. If you do, take the punishment and move on


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